🎧SBC Podcast #72 – Betting Clever: Horse Racing, Black Market Bookies, Oddschecker Unlimited & Exchanges

In the latest SBC Podcast I am joined by SBC’s Josh as the Betting Clever podcast returns to tackle a whole host of important topics in the betting world.

With this chat recorded during Cheltenham, betting on horse racing takes centre stage, with some recent news about a black market bookmaker discussed in the wider context of getting money down on a sport beset by problems.

Andy Holding, Oddschecker Unlimited, missing account balances, accusatory emails, a listener question and exchange chat are also on the agenda in an action packed show!

You can listen to Episode 72 now via Apple / Spotify / Google / YouTube and all other major podcast directories (search Smart Betting Club)

For those of you who would like to access the BETDAQ sign up offer we reference in the show, you can do so here – please remember, this promotion is available to all listeners, not just SBC Members!

As ever, if you have any topics or areas of the gambling world that you would like us to discuss, please get in touch!

🎧SBC Podcast #71: Andy Holding From Oddschecker on Speed Figures, Punting & Tipping

In the latest SBC Podcast I am joined by Andy Holding, the well known racing expert who tips for Oddschecker and commentates on William Hill Radio.

Andy has been in love with horse racing from an early age and he has put in the hard yards to get to where he is, working in bookmaker shops, crunching numbers and building up a reliable system to beat the bookies.

He is that rarest of beasts – someone in the betting media who not only talks the talk but walks the walk as he became a professional punter at the age of 30 so knows what it takes to win.

Speed figures and sectional timing are central to his edge and this feeds into his betting and tipping alongside his service, Andy Holding Speed Figures (recently reviewed by us at SBC!) where clients can access a plethora of tips, data and resources to help them make their punting pay.

Andy wears many hats and this means that we had plenty of topics to cover. Dealing with losing runs as a tipster, affordability checks and the names of the 4 major bookmakers who lay him a bet are on the agenda – I think there is something for everyone in this chat!

You can listen to Episode 71 now via Apple / Spotify / Google / YouTube and all other major podcast directories (search Smart Betting Club)

An In-Depth Chat With A Hardened Bettor And Tipster

In this episode, Andy and I discuss:

  • Andy’s grounding in racing (and betting)
  • A mentor who changed everything
  • Time!
  • Going professional and how Andy ‘got in’ at the right time
  • Opportunities that have arrived along the way
  • Speed Figures and how they can provide an objective view of races
  • Market reactions to speed figures and sectionals (and how they are still underestimated)
  • The work that goes behind the scenes at Andy Holding Speed Figures
  • Irish Racing and Andy’s daily podcast
  • Tipping for Andy Holding Speed Figures and Oddschecker (and the differences between the selections)
  • Price contractions
  • Dealing with losing runs as a tipster
  • Andy’s betting activity and how he gets on!
  • The firms that Andy has a relationship with and restrictions that turn punters away
  • Affordability Checks and Andy’s thoughts on the future of horse racing
  • Some tips from Andy for betting at Cheltenham (with some early selections!)
  • General advice for betting on horse racing
  • Andy’s football allegiances!
  • How to find Andy and a special SBC discount

You can find out more about Andy’s work on his website, www.andyholdingspeedfigures.co.uk, by following his work on Oddschecker or by following his service’s Twitter/X account, @figuresAndy .

We recently reviewed Andy’s service in Issue 139 of the SBC Magazine, with detailed proofing and analysis of the tips as published by his Speed Figures service (Spoiler – they are excellent!).

To read this review in full and access an exclusive discount on the cost of joining Andy’s service, you will need a SBC subscription, options for which can be found here.

📰 SBC Magazine Issue #139: Andy Holding, Popular Podcasts & Getting On!

In the second of our monthly SBC Magazines, we are back with another jam-packed betting bonanza in our February Issue, #139.

As a reminder, we have slightly altered how we publish magazines in 2024 as we are now compiling all of our content into one easy-to-consume piece with blogs, tipster reports, member questions and embedded links for audio and video content.

So – you can download each monthly PDF and be fully informed on what you need to know to make money betting!

Sign-up for membership today for instant access to SBC 139 and our full back catalogue!

Clocking in at 55 pages long, SBC 139 includes:

  • Our in-depth review of Andy Holding Speed Figures, the private service of the famed horse racing tipster
  • Additional analysis of Andy’s Oddschecker tips
  • SBC’s take on Matchbook, the pretender to the ‘exchange king’ crown
  • Three ways to help you get on, with a free SBC service and guides for bookmakers & brokers
  • Member Questions (and our answers)
  • ‘Tweets of the month’ from the betting community

In addition, we have links to some of our video and audio content for the month with SBC Podcast #70′s chat with Harry Stewart-Moore being a highlight.

Having a gambling law expert on the pod was a first and I was delighted with the reaction to this release. Harry spoke with authority, humour and wisdom; as a result, this is one of our most popular releases to date. If you haven’t listened to it yet, you can still do so here.

Sign Up For Instant Access

To gain instant access SBC Magazine #139 and all of our back catalogue of reviews and reports, you will require SBC Membership. To sign up as a paid SBC member, just click here and follow the registration link.

🚨 NEW REVIEW ALERT: Andy Holding – The UK’s Most Well Known Horse Racing Tipster?🏇

Andy Holding is one of the most well known and respected horse racing tipsters in UK betting circles.

William Hill Radio, regular podcast appearances and a daily Oddschecker column have propelled him into this position and as the feature review in the February SBC Magazine for February, we have published our findings from proofing his personal tipping service, Andy Holding Speed Figures.

Alongside our review, a unique and *considerable* discount has also been made available for all SBC Members, with subscriptions using our discount code costing just £25 – a saving of £14 a month!

This means that if you sign up with SBC today and avail this offer to join Andy’s service, you will save the cost of an annual SBC subscription in just under 8 months – and that’s before you use anything else that we have to offer!

What Does The Service Do?

Tipping makes up a portion of what is on offer at Andy Holding Speed Figures, with the majority of our review looking at performance, odds movement, advanced analytics and how this all compares with what gets released for free on Oddschecker each and every day.

Alongside that, this service offers much more, including:

  • Speed Figure sheets that are a great source of information to find your own bets
  • A weekly blog that highlights horses of interest
  • The ‘Irish Racing Podcast’, where Andy discusses any racing from the Emerald Isle when there are meetings

We will be following up with a fresh SBC Podcast in the next month or so, which will give me a chance to quiz Andy about his methods, how he identifies edges and all things betting when it comes to the sport of kings.

For those of you who want a preview, in this interview, Andy joined friend of the show, Simon Nott, to talk about his betting and tipping:

Is This For Everyone?

Like with any tipster service, workload, variance, price sensitivity and access to bookmaker accounts are all questions that need answering when considering whether said service is suitable for you.

We discuss all of these issues in our review, with our advanced analytics and commentary making it very clear who this service will work for, who it won’t work for and how to maximise any subscription to benefit from what is on offer.

One thing I can share is this – Andy Holding Speed Figures is more than a tipster service – the wealth of information that comes with a subscription can help you find your own selections too!

Sign Up To Read This Review

To read our review of Andy Holding’s service and all of our expert content, you will need a Smart Betting Club membership, with different subscription options available to view here.

This will provide you with instant access to every report we have ever written, alongside a wealth of other benefits including discounts to services like Andy’s.

With Cheltenham approaching we will be as active as ever helping our members to profit from their betting, with some excellent offers and promotions already in the works.

Your 3 top free tipsters & the expert with winners at 66/1, 45/1, 20/1, 12/1 & more this year already

Last month, we announced the winners (and losers) of the 2021 SBC awards as voted for by you.

If you missed it – you can download the free Awards Report via this link

One of our most popular categories in the awards was the Best Free Tipster award which, as the name suggests, rewards tipsters for services that are available completely free of charge.

And ever since the Awards were released, one of these free tipsters has fired in several winners at 66/1, 45/1 and 12/1 (Read on for more)!

First though is a breakdown on how you voted in the Free Tipster category with Mark O’Haire taking Gold, Andy Holding the Silver and Ben Coley the Bronze…

Mark O’Haire Podcast & Ben Coley’s Awesome 2021 So Far

Mark O’Haire of We Love Betting was crowned the best free tipster in the SBC 2021 awards and to celebrate I spoke to him on Episode #13 of the Smart Betting Club podcast.

In it we discuss the underlying process behind how he finds value and why he gives his advice out for free. If you’re looking for a new tipster then you can try out Mark’s tips for free.

Listen to our podcast with Mark via any of the following directories:

Apple
Google
Spotify

Bronze award winner, Ben Coley is Sporting Life’s resident golf expert and his free tips made a 38.7% ROI in 2020 for those following him in each week.

Already this year he has fired in several more winners including the likes of Smith/Leishman last week at 12/1, John Catlin at 66/1, Daniel Von Tonder at 45/1, Justin Thomas at 20/1 and Brooks Koepka at 45/1. He is currently up 136 points for 2021 alone!

Mindful of his expertise, we first analysed Ben’s service back in September 2020 and you can download this review in full to sample our forensic tipster analysis work via the following link:

Download Our Review of Ben Coley’s Golf Tips

How To Access The Expanded Awards Report

For those of you interested in reading more on the 2021 SBC Awards results, including who won the prizes for several vital ‘Best Tipster’ categories, you can also access all of this with our special expanded SBC-members-only Awards Report.

This includes details on the Gold, Silver & Bronze Award winners for:

  • The Best Horse Racing Tipster
    The Gold winner made a 33.4% ROI from all advice supplied last year
  • The Best Sports Tipster
    The Gold winner made a 22.20% ROI from all advice supplied last year
  • The Best Overall Tipster
    The Silver winner made a ridiculously good 63% ROI from all advice supplied last year. Best of all SBC members can enjoy a huge discount if joining them.
  • The Best Tipster Newcomer
    The Gold winner is free to follow to all SBC members and made a 8.24% ROI from 491 bets in 2020 alone.

If interested in reading this extended SBC members Awards Report, you can gain instant access with a Smart Betting Club membership – now available at the lowest ever prices for 2021.

How to check if a tipsters quoted odds are fair and realistic

One of the most important questions facing those of you using racing tipsters these days is that of odds availability.

Specifically…Can you as a punter realistically obtain the odds that a tipster quotes?

For some of the most popular free tipsters like Hugh Taylor or Andy Holding it’s always been an issue as the weight of money behind their tips forces the odds in very quickly. The fact they both supply their tips for free means there are lots of punters trying to lump on their bets.

Odds movement is also now a growing issue for other less well-known tipsters too – especially horse racing experts that put up bets into early markets which are very price sensitive.

Whilst it might make sense to follow a tipster snapping up the earliest value – in reality, it can cause you all kinds of problems. From the fact you will be making less profit (and possibly losing so much value you might be in deficit by doing so) to being increasingly vulnerable to betting restrictions being applied to your bookmaker accounts.

In short, its a major issue and one you need to be acutely aware of if following a tipster.

The Evolution of Racing Bookmaking

To help explain the current issue with ‘early odds’, it’s worth a quick walk down memory lane to understand how betting on racing historically worked.

Back in the good old days, most major bookmakers employed large teams of racing traders who would price up each race meeting and manage a traditional racing book.

As money flowed in a market, the odds for each horse would change as each firm managed their liability and tried to work an overall profitable position.

Occasionally, some bookmakers would find themselves getting filled in and taking a hit if getting it wrong, yet their in-built over-round always ensured that long-term, they would usually make a profit with a modicum of skill.

With the introduction of betting exchanges, all of this changed.

Nowadays, large-scale racing trading teams are a thing of the past, with almost all bookmakers basing their odds on what happens on Betfair.

If money comes in for a horse on Betfair – the bookie slashes its prices to reflect that. The opposite rings true on horses that drift in price although generally bookies are much slower to put their odds up than down.

Ultimately, the art of building a racing book has been lost by all major firms. They simply track Betfair.

Which in turn has impacted how we as punters get on and how the markets react to shrewd money.

Why Odds Are Odd When Betting Early

This sea change in the world of racing bookmaking has had a major knock-on effect for those punters keen to bet early such as the night before or the early morning of racing.

For most horse races these days, you can expect to see the first odds start to appear around 4 to 5pm the day before racing is due to take place from a handful of bookies.

As the evening wears on, a few more firms will start to quote odds until there are a smattering of bookmakers pricing up each horse in a race.

This continues into the morning of racing and it is not until 10 to 1030am when the markets really start to form, with the vast majority of money actually only hitting the market around 10 minutes before a race actually starts.

The problem for us punters is that when taking ‘early’ prices prior to the market forming – these prices are based on a very small amount of Betfair trading – usually not much money at all.

A horse that is 10/1 at 9am, which suddenly sees a rush of support can send the bookies running for cover and be as short as 5/1 within 20 to 30 minutes.

This is because without a decent Betfair market to guide them at this time and with very little ‘racing expertise’, the bookies know they are vulnerable to shrewd punters who try and snap up the value odds on any overpriced horses at this point.

Therefore, even moderate sums of money coming in for a horse (especially at big odds) will see its price collapse in no time and the accounts of those placing such bets eyed with suspicion.

Want to red flag your account to a bookmaker as one for restriction? Simply place lots of bets on popular horses that quickly shorten in price and that usually does the trick.

Sometimes it matters not one jot if your bets go onto win. The simple act of regularly betting horses that shorten in price is enough to see many bookmakers limit your account.

20/1 Advised into 8/1 SP…

It is this issue of slashing odds that causes such a problem for tipsters who post up bets into these early betting markets.

The general logic is that the earlier a tipster puts up a tip, the greater chance its odds will move downwards*

*Although it’s important to make the distinction here that betting in the major race meetings such as Cheltenham or on the big Saturday/Sunday featured races won’t see the same level of movement.

For those tipsters with a large subscriber base, there is zero chance the quoted odds will hold up.

It’s all too common to see a price of 20/1 quoted by a tipster, yet within minutes it’s a best 16/1 or 14/1. Come the morning of the race its 10/1 and it starts at 8/1 SP.

Considering betting profitably is all about value, even a change from 20/1 to 16/1 can and does make a major difference to your bottom line.

Taking 8/1 or 10/1 on a 20/1 shot isn’t worth thinking about neither – and by doing so you are actually more likely to turn a loss than a profit.

 

 

The Tipster With Rapid Odds Movement Issues

To give you an example of the type of movement I regularly see on this front, I wanted to share with you stats from some ongoing odds monitoring we are currently undertaking on a popular racing tipster.

I won’t name the tipster in question as this odds monitoring is still ongoing, but I have seen several very positive reviews of his service as published by several other ‘review’ sites already – yet none of them mention his odds movement, which I fear is a major oversight.

This racing tipster advises his tips either the night before racing (8-9pm) or early in the morning of racing (8.30-9am) and to gauge how his prices stand up, we are tracking and comparing the best odds across 3 different metrics as follows:

  • The odds he advises
  • The odds after 15 minutes have elapsed from the time the tip was sent
  • The odds at 10am

Below you can see what the average odds look like in decimal format at each of these 3 metrics so far:

  • The odds he advises: 13.96
  • The odds after 15 minutes have elapsed from the time the tip was sent: 11.96
  • The odds at 10am: 10.85

Exploring these stats further, you can quite clearly see a major drop in the average odds available from those advised and those available after 15 minutes. From 13.96 to 11.96 in 15 minutes is a significant move.

By 10am, these odds have dropped even further down to 10.85 and it has quickly become apparent that they are being extremely well supported.

In terms of profit differences, you would be -9.35% ROI worse off if taking the best price after 15 minutes and -21.78% ROI worse off at 10am.

There is no suggestion that the odds quoted by this tipster are not accurate at the time they send the tips (our tracking also gauges this) but clearly they are going to prove to be very difficult to obtain.

Even if you did get on within the first few minutes of the bets being advised – most bookies would take one look at your betting history and quickly restrict or close your account.

If there is one thing that will get a bookies attention it is constantly backing a horse that drops significantly in price after you get on.

 

Why Odds Tracking Is A Must In ANY Review

The above outlines very neatly exactly why every genuine tipster review MUST feature an element of odds-tracking.

We perform this as standard for every major tipster we review and whilst it is hard-work and time-consuming, it is hugely valuable.

By doing so we can quickly identify those tipsters putting up genuine odds and inform you as to how achievable the odds are (or not).

The tipster I reference above will be reviewed in a forthcoming SBC Magazine once we complete our detailed odds tracking, and as things stand it does seem odds availability is a major issue – something that will prevent us recommending them to our members.

And whilst other reviews published on this tipping service might skirt this issue – we will not as it’s a fundamental problem that needs to be addressed if they wish to be taken seriously as a service.

The good news is that there are several Hall of Fame rated tipsters, whom we rate and recommend here at SBC that do play fair by the odds they quote for subscribers.

If you are keen to find out more on who they are and how they can help you, then you can find more details within our Hall of Fame listings and reviews, which you can gain access to with a Smart Betting Club membership.

Whatever you do though, be very wary of any tipster quoting results based on tips sent the day before racing. Very often you simply can’t match their results in practice!

P.s. If ever in doubt as to whether a tipster puts up genuine odds – be sure to ask them exactly when they put up their tips and how they settle their results. If they are putting them up the evening before racing and making no adjustments for odds movement, I would advise you to give them a miss!

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Peter Ling
Smart Betting Club Editor

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