Early thoughts on WinnerOdds – so far so good!

When you go away on holiday, the last thing you want to do is to come home cream crackered, but when the holiday is to the City That Never Sleeps, I suppose it isn’t too surprising to return to normal life far more tired than when you left!  Not sure if it’s jet lag or just the fact that very long days spent walking and eating are bound to take it out of you, but either way I’ve got to admit I’m struggling to get back into the home routine.  For anyone who has never been to New York, I would strongly recommend it.  An amazing place.  But save your pennies before you go.  It ain’t cheap!

With my lad putting on the Winner Odds Football bets whilst I was away, we’ve now completed one month with the service and I thought it appropriate to provide some thoughts.  For the purposes of this post I’ll use the month’s figures, but as a pre-warning, the back end of last week has seen the biggest drawdown we’ve had, which whilst not being particularly big in itself, has meant that the current figures are down on those I’m about to talk around.

So what are those Month 1 figures?

Bets: 420.

Bets per day: 14.48

Points staked: 4,944

Profit: +232.51pts

ROI: 4.7%

(To give some idea of the subsequent drawdown, my ROI is currently standing at 1.49%).

The first thing to say is that Month 1 went well, essentially matching longer term performance expectations.  Past historical track records over many thousands of bets peg the target ROI at 5%, so to come within 0.3% of that is satisfying.

How has the experience so far been?

You know what?  I’m really pleased to have a betting “partner”!  Seriously, I can recommend having such a person as highly as I recommend visiting New York!  And when it comes to Winner Odds Football, Joe’s help and input has been invaluable because quite frankly, placing so many bets – especially when working full time – can at times be a bit of a slog.  Don’t get me wrong, I’m not suggesting for one second you can’t follow Winner Odds if you’re doing everything on your own.  You can.  But with a service such as this where the higher the turnover you can achieve the better in the long run, having someone to share the load with is, I’ve found, more than useful.

Interestingly, when I use the WO website and examine the “Average User” stats, using the same size bankroll, over the same period, the ROI stands at -0.4%, which is quite the discrepancy.  I guess that we could, to an extent, have been somewhat fortunate in the picks that we’ve backed.  Every user is going to have a different betting history, dictated most by the bookmakers they have available to them, so over a short time frame, it would be easy to be the right or wrong side of variance.  However, as I said, turnover is important.  We’ve backed an average of 14.48 bets per day, the average user by comparison, 9.38.  That’s 65% of the total of picks my lad and I have supported, and I reckon that can be significant.

What is a shame I feel, is that just as we were really getting into it, the bet supply has dried up a bit.  Whereas Winner Odds Football takes bets from football leagues all over the world, there simply aren’t as many leagues currently in action.  Before I signed up, I read that this is traditionally a period of the year when the number of picks coming through dries up a bit, and this is something we’re definitely seeing.  A short losing run is now biting, and partly I feel because over the last week, we’ve had notably fewer bets, a higher proportion of which have lost.

The other interesting point to note is that despite the number of bets, the ride has still felt pretty rocky.  I guess this has been down a lot to regularly checking in on results, which is always a silly thing to do but inevitable in the excitement and the natural curiosity that comes when following a new service.  Weekends have been particularly busy, with say 30-40 bets playing out on the Saturday.  That’s a range of bets that can see considerable rises and falls as you go through each match, but we soon realised that checking results at the end of the day gave a feeling of far more stability and gradual progression.  Very easy to be sucked into a bad habit when working with a new service of checking results far too often!

So, all good so far.  The big question mark remains over how long we can go avoiding bookmaker restrictions, but only time will tell with that one.

Betting 2024

Bookie Bashing Early Pay Out Tracker: Staked 8,055pts, +1,677.76pts, roi 20.82%, roc 119%

Bookie Bashing Golf Tracker/Weekly Golf Value: Staked 4,483pts, +88.43pts, roi 1.97%, roc 5.89%

Golf (Win Only): Staked 217pts, -217pts, roi -100%, roc -21.7%

Bookie Bashing Racing Tracker (Lucky 15s): Staked 3,995pts, -489.11pts, roi -12.24%, roc -32.6%

Bookie Bashing Value Bets Tracker: Staked 3,661.5pts, +828.2pts, roi 22.61%, roc 55.21%

DD/HH: Staked 844pts, -473.50pts, roi -56.1%, roc -47.35%.

Golf Betting Club: Staked 1,376pts, +153.34pts, roi 11.15%, roc 10.22%

NFL strategy: Staked 94.5pts, +95.45pts, roi 101%, roc 9.54%

Sys Analyst: Staked 3,178pts, +400.47pts, roi 12.6%, roc 26.69%

Touchdown Profit: Staked 120pts, +75.44pts, roi 62.86%, roc 7.54%

Winner Odds Football: Staked 4,944pts, +232.51pts, roi 4.7%, roc 15.5%


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